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WHAT IS FREEDOM? WHO IS FREE? WILL I FIND YOU AMONG THE LIVING OR THE DEAD?
I MUST BE LOOKING FOR SOMETHING I'LL NEVER SEE, LIKE WHERE THE WIND ENTERS THE WORLD. PLEASE TELL ME, ARE YOU FREE?
WHAT CONVICTIONS GOVERN YOUR CHOICES AND DIRECT YOUR WORDS.
ARE YOU FREE?[/img]

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Not really, to be honest...

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yeah-sort of........i can do what i want ey!but somehow i am trapped in germany........so,hard question!on a BIG U.K.RAVE i feel really free and when i am in a car just cruisin threw the countryside wit my music loud

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'freedom' is a state of mind...partly
even some of the highest earners in the western world suffer from 'Affluenza', anxiety that they can never achieve enough status, they are owned by their posessions, constantly assesing their social position & value against their peers, which leads to depression & emotional detachment from the world & screws their relationships. Funny isnt it...
thinking back, the times ive felt most free is when i've owned very little, a transient life, v few 'things' other than a ruck sack & a good pair of boots, everything else came & went. Now we're parents, so inevitably as u get older stuff changes, but freedom maybe lies in the fluidity of growing & moving through life's changes, accepting yr making the most of yr present situation for all its struggles & embracing the future. We are where we are for so many reasons, our upbringing, our cultures & society play a part as well as our own endevours, as long as weve tried our hardest along the way theres little to blame ourselves for, so breathe out & enjoy!

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Some people are free from external forces (physically free). Some people are free from internal forces (mentally free). Very few people are free from both. Nobody is free from the laws of science.

Is anyone truely free when we depend so much on others to survive?

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The question is :"At what point does my freedom impinge on another person's freedom - and therefore nullify such freedom?"

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Elric the Impaler wrote:

The question is :"At what point does my freedom impinge on another person's freedom - and therefore nullify such freedom?"

Although, "They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security"

People should be free, where that freedom does not infringe on the freedom of others, in the cases where that infringement would be difficult to mitigate. All of this should be treated with a very large dose of common sense (however difficult that is to define).

The government's job is to protect you from other people, and to protect other people from you, NOT to protect anyone from themselves.

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Does anybody really and truly hav freedom over their own property though? yes its true people have freedom to do whatever they please, but the right to use that freedom is discouraged by the government and the social implications of peer pressure, so what is freedom?

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O.K., to finally answer Jungalicious´question. THE Freedom does not exist. I don´t believe in freedom but in cause and effect.

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The post by CS really resonated with me, being transient myself and owning very few possessions as well...even now.

There is always a wrench in my plans therefore I have learned not to plan. There is always a loss so I have learned not to hold on. These behaviours however truly dictate the sort of interaction you will have with your fellow travelers here on planet Earth.

For example. I have no family, no home, no roots. I feel most alive when having a genuine connection with people of like-minded interest. This is when I feel most alive. The trick is to either have this all the time or find the contentment in being FREE, alone, on a higher more desolate path. For some this is a lonely road to travel but it is envied by these same folk.

I have a good job, I make decent money and have a home for myself. Is this life? Why shouldn't I just throw it all away and travel carelessley throughout life? Well, I have yet to decide. Do I want a solitary existence rich in these experiences when I am truly "connecting" with other travelers or do I want to "settle down" one day and have a family??? The two do not coincide in my experience.

SO YOU TELL ME!!!

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[quote="SINDEEZ"]The post by CS really resonated with me, being transient myself and owning very few possessions as well...even now.

There is always a wrench in my plans therefore I have learned not to plan. There is always a loss so I have learned not to hold on. These behaviours however truly dictate the sort of interaction you will have with your fellow travelers here on planet Earth.

For example. I have no family, no home, no roots. I feel most alive when having a genuine connection with people of like-minded interest. This is when I feel most alive. The trick is to either have this all the time or find the contentment in being FREE, alone, on a higher more desolate path. For some this is a lonely road to travel but it is envied by these same folk.

I have a good job, I make decent money and have a home for myself. Is this life? Why shouldn't I just throw it all away and travel carelessley throughout life? Well, I have yet to decide. Do I want a solitary existence rich in these experiences when I am truly "connecting" with other travelers or do I want to "settle down" one day and have a family??? The two do not coincide in my experience.

SO YOU TELL ME!!![/quote]

Fine, the answer is No and you knew it all along. We are all slaves in some form or another, Period. We cannot govern our lives freely- society does. always has always will. now we of likemindedness have the ability to revel in our "uniqueness" but still we are players in this vicious cycle. sad to think we feel free because we have yet to experience the harshest form of slavery. but hey, let's dance...

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We are all the same thing! We are all free from everything part from the people that think there not because the way we have evolved. We are getting close to self awareness of what we are, everything (nature) is one not individual, which is what we are but experienced in the 3rd dimennsion. This may not make sense to alot of people, true, because if it did I wouldnt be saying this. Check out Grant Morrison on YouTube for a insight in what I say.
It will deep if your ready to know but will make sense str8 away.

We can change the world, We will change the world.
Counter-Culture has shadoweed from us from what we are for 200 yearsish.

Keep on banging the tunes out! smile from da Blak

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Fine, the answer is No and you knew it all along. We are all slaves in some form or another, Period. We cannot govern our lives freely- society does. always has always will. now we of likemindedness have the ability to revel in our "uniqueness" but still we are players in this vicious cycle. sad to think we feel free because we have yet to experience the harshest form of slavery. but hey, let's dance...[/quote]

What exactly are you referring to with "we have yet to experience the harshest form of slavery?"